expand circulation in Nordic countries and put us in good we've done this its clear that the maritime development centre also wants to be part of the show we have been working tremendously hard on the internet and the use of it in shipping and said that i had a proposal but it was inappropriate last thursday what i said was the conference in hamburg, that's fine i think you are putting it in the wrong place, but that's fine but this telematics and telemetry idea is one that i've been working on for quite some time i have some distinct opinions on that i think we could we can put together a proposal for you on the basis th we could be hard pressed to find enough to talk about i think as far as i remember from counting the chairs you had a space for 100 wed you price your arrangements at about £250 DKK 3,000 That's probably on the high side Clearly it depends on what quality of speakers you have. we can assist you in terms of putting together the arrangements here but it is a combined approach but it is a digital ship arrangement we are not in the business to make money out of arrangements like this We would want a participation this is not our business but its clear that we spend hours and time on it we would obviously like to have Lauritzen Cool, Sabroe We have the largest producer of monitoring equipment for containerised reefer cargos in Denmark Remote monitoring of reefer containers That could be an extremely interesting bit. Automation session, we have a number of Danish aspects as well Thrane and Thrane clearly as well. Its a Digital Ship Conference in co-operation with the Maritime Development Centre of Europe We will in turn advertise it here in local magazines as well as through normal research channels. Its something that I'm working on with my members on a project level basis with vendors of machinery How will this change their design and production This as a sort of a kick-off would be very attractive. All these guys that I mentioned are members of the organisation. =========